[ToT]Inspire and [ToT]IMDDK are map hackers. Not blatant, they're sly but you can never hide the truth (omg phoenix wright quote squeee)
It was a 2v2 on the SEA server, they also did not scout the entire game Inspire (the Protoss) had many observers on the field (possibly to cover for the hacking) but did not scout once with them.
Replay can be found here for further analysis: http://drop.sc/365127
An additional replay played the game previous that I have not analysed yet can be found here: http://drop.sc/365128
5:20 targets stationary SCV with attack move through Fog Of War with no vision after move commanding
6:51 Attack moves Zerglings down ramp into reaper but suddenly pulls them back for no explainable reason to defend the mineral line from the said reaper that jumps into the base to harrass (mostly suspicious, not conclusive)
7:33 looks into Fog of war at Reaper which is about to check third base
~8min: Opposing forces move out on minimap, Overlord catches glimpse of it but neither play looks at the force and Zerg (facing the opposing attack) starts making a lot lings possibly in preparation of the attack (mostly suspicious)
13:15: I fly medivacs over his army (stupidly) which he seems to suspiciously position for
14:08: Moves forces into fog of war into the path of a freshly loaded Medivac, then positions army in in the direction of the medivac without seeing or knowing about it
I don't know how active ToT are anymore, but Inspire and IMDDK are definitely map hackers who have the potential to seriously damage the credibility of the well respected clan Trick or Treat.
This also makes me feel less bad about losing and my horrible terran play
Thanks,
Chasu
From what I know, Inspire and IMDDK are not closely involved with clan ToT(I do not know them at all myself), they probably just asked to join the clan system on the SEA server and some officer of the clan knows them and let them in the clan system. I haven't watched the replays yet, but I'm sure there's got to be something suspicious from your post. I'll talk to the clan leaders and give them a heads up. Thanks!
is only a plat from SEA, very bad player.. but it cost me 2 games because i didn't realise he map hacked until too late.
basically, no scouts, army movements to stop drops, the usual stuff. does not even try to hide, both games no scout, no observers.
game on DW shows preempt of Photon O/C when army is moving, thats when i know during the game he hacks, especially when he moves up to stop my drop.
the other game he makes Phx to stop my drops, my initial drop that did a lot of dmg only worked because he went out side to intercept my ally forces @ the front of his base (which was a mistake by me but worked out well) and shows how bad of a player he is.
http://drop.sc/369348 - around 4:30 moves to stop my proxy fact. his oracle harass in general was suspicious during the game but didn't alarm me until 11:30 he moves and warps in men as my army moves across map and then drops Photon O/c before me army arrives, with no vision , then 12:09 he stops my drop, i drop scan and find no ob , called him a hacker from there.
http://drop.sc/369347 opens with stargaze but makes nothing, as i have turret in my base, so no oracle pops out (twilight drops instead) he does make a super delayed oracle tho. oracle harrss dodges my turrets and preempts marine movement. does the same as the first game when my men move out, his oracle comes in. from 12:30 is the obvious bit, i split army for drop he intercepts land army. 17:30 moves phd to stop my 3 vac drop and from 19:45 he moves main army with no vision to save his 3rd
oh IMDDK has long been suspected hacker, but i only was able to pin point his old 4v4 team mate Traxid or whatever from that ExC clan
Last edited by Awesomeo; Thu, 2nd-Jan-2014 at 2:56 PM.
I been played with a lot of hackers, no one can stop them, so get hack urself
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Originally Posted by Awesomeo
ReAcT is a hacker.
is only a plat from SEA, very bad player.. but it cost me 2 games because i didn't realise he map hacked until too late.
basically, no scouts, army movements to stop drops, the usual stuff. does not even try to hide, both games no scout, no observers.
game on DW shows preempt of Photon O/C when army is moving, thats when i know during the game he hacks, especially when he moves up to stop my drop.
the other game he makes Phx to stop my drops, my initial drop that did a lot of dmg only worked because he went out side to intercept my ally forces @ the front of his base (which was a mistake by me but worked out well) and shows how bad of a player he is.
http://drop.sc/369348 - around 4:30 moves to stop my proxy fact. his oracle harass in general was suspicious during the game but didn't alarm me until 11:30 he moves and warps in men as my army moves across map and then drops Photon O/c before me army arrives, with no vision , then 12:09 he stops my drop, i drop scan and find no ob , called him a hacker from there.
http://drop.sc/369347 opens with stargaze but makes nothing, as i have turret in my base, so no oracle pops out (twilight drops instead) he does make a super delayed oracle tho. oracle harrss dodges my turrets and preempts marine movement. does the same as the first game when my men move out, his oracle comes in. from 12:30 is the obvious bit, i split army for drop he intercepts land army. 17:30 moves phd to stop my 3 vac drop and from 19:45 he moves main army with no vision to save his 3rd
oh IMDDK has long been suspected hacker, but i only was able to pin point his old 4v4 team mate Traxid or whatever from that ExC clan
I been played with a lot of hackers, no one can stop them, so get hack urself
no the bot auto blinks for u when engaging or something... the game is still played by the player and not by the bot
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"and we'll invest more on Bots, as our first Trial bot, the 'NemBotElie' was a huge success, organising tournaments and being part of the Council of mGG. But there are a few bugs in which the bot cannot go past the skill level of a Platinum Protoss." - PaRAnorMaL
How do you tell its a bot and not a human player... I mean there is no way to tell, now is there?
I mean all the bot does is play for you, right?
Generally there's a pattern that bots perform that a human wouldn't be able to replicate.
i.e. blinking back perfectly when a unit reaches a certain determined hp
It looks suss and is just too perfect to be human. It's like playing an insane AI who micro's everything insanely.
Just played against a really suss diamond Terran called "Kimchi" on SEA.
22:03 - Jumps straight over my army in mid map through fog
23:20 - Lifts his cc without seeing my army seiging his 4th
25:00 - Unseiges and goes home (because he see's banshees in production? and he has no AA?)
25:57 - Looks directly at my army again through fog.
26:15 - Scrolls down directly at my army again through fog.
The guy played tvt without any vision or scans to see ahead with a mech army lol.
He was really bad with macro too, I don't think even high diamond SEA level worthy.
(which is what he is)
The first link clearly shows that at 6:00 - 6:30 2 stalkers track a reaper with no map vision across various points in the map before finally killing it.
Just played against a really suss diamond Terran called "Kimchi" on SEA.
22:03 - Jumps straight over my army in mid map through fog
23:20 - Lifts his cc without seeing my army seiging his 4th
25:00 - Unseiges and goes home (because he see's banshees in production? and he has no AA?)
25:57 - Looks directly at my army again through fog.
26:15 - Scrolls down directly at my army again through fog.
The guy played tvt without any vision or scans to see ahead with a mech army lol.
He was really bad with macro too, I don't think even high diamond SEA level worthy.
(which is what he is)
I actually met a couple of hackers while playing on SEA. I probably should post the replays up if I remember but yeah there are a couple there. Most recently,a guy called React (Protoss) I think might had been posted on this site before or mentioned by someone before.
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"and we'll invest more on Bots, as our first Trial bot, the 'NemBotElie' was a huge success, organising tournaments and being part of the Council of mGG. But there are a few bugs in which the bot cannot go past the skill level of a Platinum Protoss." - PaRAnorMaL
[HIHI] Starpoint <------------------------------------ Just Blatanly and confidenty sent his probe to my base on Nimbus, a 4 player map, and qued up keys to scout my base, he just instantly went cross spawn and didnt even check other bases
But this one has to be the most blantant I've seen to date.
Happened on KR this morning for me (player : iamDK ).
It's so disgusting that u realize you are playing vs a hacker by mid game and I was tempted to just quit the game and give it up.
Moves out to snipe every single obs and goes after every single pylon and even hiding probes by directly attack commanding into them. One of the most obvious hackers I've played and I was pretty disgusted by it tbh.
"and we'll invest more on Bots, as our first Trial bot, the 'NemBotElie' was a huge success, organising tournaments and being part of the Council of mGG. But there are a few bugs in which the bot cannot go past the skill level of a Platinum Protoss." - PaRAnorMaL
IWannaDoYou and [CST1] TrOllzOr , both Protoss players. The first guy never scouts, moves his probe out of my reaper's first path to his base, plants a DT shrine. I finally scout it and overreact by making 3-4 turrets, the dude got a warp prism, doesnt warp in anything and goes exactly around all my turrets.
Just before final engagement he moves his army forward and repositions just before my units get to his base, all of this was done without once scouting at all nor having any observers.
Trollzor is the same story, goes for same build with a warp prism and DTs, he sends his probe out to my base but a few seconds after quickly retreats to main as my reaper is coming in (doesn't have fog of war on the reaper). This time the dts come as I did not scout them in time, I decide to go for some hellbats with bio to punish his possible speedlot attack.
Around 9.25 he pops his dts into my base, starts attacking the reactor but then quickly moves to my still building turret while being out of fog of war.
Perhaps TrOllzOr was not hacking and the probe/dts were a mere coincedence but I am 100% positive the first **** was hacking!!!
Replays included as attachment.
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Previously known as Gerlan.au
Just too obvious for words, premeditated offence and defence be it from his ramp or mineral line to deflect oracles or anything else.
CHases down pylons to obviously same with my DT's, Oracles and Observers.
Ends up running his HT's up to my army and storms them over and over and in general just watches my army on multiple occasions like a stunned rabbit.
For specifics the whole 15th min, he looks at my units in around 3 different locations and makes premeditated defensive movements multiple times in multiple locations.
Should have been a 12 min game but took over 30 min because I needed to sit and out macro him, stil waiting on Blizz to banhammer the last one I reported.
battlenet://starcraft/profile/6/13724251472458153984, the same guys did maphack again, beating me for twice, intercept my medivac at lower ground without observer at high ground. Blizz isn't doing anything..
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